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Tune Method for aktiv Kabers

Posted: 2023-11-23 18:44
by RobDodds
I need some help in setting up my recently activated Linn Kabers. I'm using Akurate 4200 and 2200 with the internal crossover cards. I have thrown them hard against a solid wall and they sound so much better than before they had their passive crossovers removed but I think there must be more to get from proper setup.

My question relates to the use of the gain controls on the back of the amps.

Should I be getting the best position in relation to back wall and toe in etc with gains set flat, and then seeing if there is any improvement by tweaking the treble and bass up or down a dB or so?

Or the reverse?

Or is it not so scientific and just pot luck.

Thanks in advance.

Re: Tune Method for aktiv Kabers

Posted: 2023-11-24 10:56
by Tendaberry
RobDodds wrote: 2023-11-23 18:44 Should I be getting the best position in relation to back wall and toe in etc with gains set flat, and then seeing if there is any improvement by tweaking the treble and bass up or down a dB or so?
This is the way to go!

Re: Tune Method for aktiv Kabers

Posted: 2023-11-24 11:28
by ITB
From "Linn Installation procedure Aktiv modules 1993"
Linn Aktiv Modules - 015.jpg
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Re: Tune Method for aktiv Kabers

Posted: 2023-11-24 11:49
by lejonklou
My experience with Linn’s plug in aktiv cards is that the level of the amps always end up on default setting (is that position 4? Don’t remember). Adjusting them up or down is always worse, regardless of whether the speakers are optimally positioned or very far from optimal.

The reason behind the default setting being the best is:
1. The circuit sounds best at the default setting and worse above and below. In other words, the whole amplifier is most musical at the default setting.
2. The steps are far too large to be of any practical use. Adjusting the treble in steps of 1 dB is useless from a musical perspective. One fifth of that would be more suitable.

Re: Tune Method for aktiv Kabers

Posted: 2023-11-24 18:56
by RobDodds
ITB wrote: 2023-11-24 11:28 From "Linn Installation procedure Aktiv modules 1993"

Linn Aktiv Modules - 015.jpg
Linn Aktiv Modules - 016.jpg
Thanks for this. Most helpful.

Re: Tune Method for aktiv Kabers

Posted: 2023-11-24 19:01
by RobDodds
lejonklou wrote: 2023-11-24 11:49 My experience with Linn’s plug in aktiv cards is that the level of the amps always end up on default setting (is that position 4? Don’t remember). Adjusting them up or down is always worse, regardless of whether the speakers are optimally positioned or very far from optimal.

The reason behind the default setting being the best is:
1. The circuit sounds best at the default setting and worse above and below. In other words, the whole amplifier is most musical at the default setting.
2. The steps are far too large to be of any practical use. Adjusting the treble in steps of 1 dB is useless from a musical perspective. One fifth of that would be more suitable.
Thanks Frederik, not having to mess with the gain settings will remove one variable. My room and domestic restrictions are difficult enough already. The speakers sound so much better already with the passive crossovers removed so I'm looking forward to any further improvements enthusiastically.

Re: Tune Method for aktiv Kabers

Posted: 2023-11-24 19:36
by El Mero Mero
RobDodds wrote: 2023-11-24 18:56
ITB wrote: 2023-11-24 11:28 From "Linn Installation procedure Aktiv modules 1993"

Linn Aktiv Modules - 015.jpg
Linn Aktiv Modules - 016.jpg
Thanks for this. Most helpful.
I don’t think those are for Chakra Active cards. On the back of the amps there is a dial where you can adjust the gain. What tweeter do you have?

Re: Tune Method for aktiv Kabers

Posted: 2023-11-24 19:54
by El Mero Mero
The default gain is at 3

Re: Tune Method for aktiv Kabers

Posted: 2023-11-24 20:21
by ITB
Linn Chakra Aktiv-7.jpg

Re: Tune Method for aktiv Kabers

Posted: 2023-11-25 09:44
by RobDodds
El Mero Mero wrote: 2023-11-24 19:36
RobDodds wrote: 2023-11-24 18:56
ITB wrote: 2023-11-24 11:28 From "Linn Installation procedure Aktiv modules 1993"

Linn Aktiv Modules - 015.jpg
Linn Aktiv Modules - 016.jpg
Thanks for this. Most helpful.
I don’t think those are for Chakra Active cards. On the back of the amps there is a dial where you can adjust the gain. What tweeter do you have?
Yes, I have all of the dials set at default 0dB which is the one o'clock position.

I have the original ceramic tweeter non 3-bar version.